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" This cannot be explained by the money hypothesis. The ONLY plausible explanation is that the driving factor for Catherine’s — and millions of other mothers around the world — is = = = the entrenched agenda to keep men entitled and empowered in the family, overseen and enforced by the OBN ( old boy network ). " = PATRIARCHY
USE J U R I E S to DECIDE the CUSTODY of CHILDREN inside MAWWIAGE DISSOLUTIONS.
Money us used to create social trend. When one man pays it changes the way everyone gets treated. The family law "professionals" develop their extortion techniques and reuse them over and over.
MORE Evidence of his financial misdeeds that made available money for the corruption exists in the concealment of funds in the entities B080480 Breathe for Change, Inc., originally registered with the WI DFI on 04/02/2015 as a non-stock corporation (41. Exhibit. WI DFI B080480, WI Corp. R. Search <wdfi.org>, enter B080480, select B080480 to view index of filings, Last Visited 04/28/2023.). B081907 became B091300 though the prior name of B4C, LLC not disclosed on the foreign entity registration, (42. Exhibit WI DFI B091300 WI Corp. R. Search. <wdfi.org>, enter B091300, select listing to view index of filings) (43. Exhibit WI DFI B081970 WI Corp. R. Search. <wdfi.org>, enter B081970, select listing to view index of filings); but the Delaware corporate registration, Certificate of Incorporation, K Schliener Incorporator, clearly states that Breathe for Change Inc., Delaware was formerly Wisconsin entity B4C, LLC., (44. Exhibit DE. S.O.S, Breathe for Change Certificate of Incorporation), B4C, LLC. B081970, is therefore the former name of Breathe for Change Inc. B091300, (45. Exhibit WI DFI B091300 Foreign Business Corporation Certificate of Authority Application). The registered founders are close friends of the father’s, one was purported to be romantically involved with the father. In May of 2017 Breathe for Change, Inc. filed a 2016’s 1952 checklist, as a charitable organization. Form 1952 shows a deposit purported to be a contribution of $151,430 dollars. (46. Exhibit WI DFI B080480, Breathe for Change Inc. 1952 checklist). Without a doubt some of that money was paid to the father as a paycheck, Cir. Ct. R. 192 at 48., contains those proof of employment.
The company WI DFI B091300 purports 1.2 million in assets, the amount of my missing half of the property likely being used to pay for the ongoing stalking and harassment with its terms:
"4.5 Adjustments for Certain Dividends and Distributions. In the event the Corporation at any time or from time to time shall make or issue1 or fix a record date for the determination of holders of Common Stock entitled to receive 1 a dividend or other distribution payable on the Common Stock in additional shares of Common Stock, then and in each such event the rate in effect immediately before such event at which shares of a series of Preferred Stock convert into shares of Common Stock shall be increased as of the time of such issuance or, in the event such a record date shall have been fixed, as of the close of business on such record date, by multiplying the number of shares of Common Stock into which one share of such series of Preferred Stock converts by a fraction: (1) the numerator of which shall be the total number of shares of Common Stock issued and outstanding immediately prior to the time of such issuance or the close of business on such record date plus the number of shares of Common Stock issuable in payment of such dividend or distribution, and (2) the denominator of which shall be the total number of shares of Common Stock issued and outstanding immediately prior to the time of such issuance or the close of business on such record date. Notwithstanding the foregoing (a) if such record date shall have been fixed and such dividend is not fully paid or if such distribution is not fully made on the date fixed therefor, the applicable conversion rate shall be recomputed accordingly as of the close of business on such record date and thereafter the applicable conversion rate shall be adjusted pursuant to this subsection as of the time of actual payment of such dividends or distributions; and (b) that no such adjustment shall be made if the holders of the. applicable series of Preferred Stock simultaneously receive a dividend or other distribution of shares of Common Stock in a number equal to the number of shares of Common Stock as they would have received if all outstanding shares of the applicable series of Preferred Stock had been converted into Common Stock on the date of such event."
Those court pocket incorporation terms say, 'you eventually get a cut from what you help to steal.' and the longer it takes the less you get.
-And nobody has said sorry. And I don't get to see my child or speak to my child. And they still have their ill-gotten gains. And I was a really good mom. And the medical records consulting company doesn't seem to let me have the right medicine to treat the illnesses they inflict, instead they manufacture records to support their crime like HIT men (Healthcare Information Technology men).
Ad there is no place to go for help because he bought the court.
Jun 5, 2023Liked by Womens Coalition International
Family court judges are killing mothers. Their inhumane treatment is a nightmare! Lives are forever changed. Family court judges prioritize male entitlement. Women and children mean nothing to these judges. Mothers are separated from their children, financially devastated, humiliated and treated like criminals. Family court judges consider children to be male property. The pain and suffering mothers and their children experience never ends. The chronic ongoing stress takes a toll. Women and children are condemned to a dangerous existence. Mothers are not criminals. Family court judges are criminals and need to be stripped of their power.
I believe the family court system needs to change. A jury needs to be put in its place to stop this terrible injustice that’s happening to mothers & their children.
THANK YOU for the work that you do Women’s Coalition. Reading her story MAKES ME SICK because it reads like a script and is all too common and is a crime against humanity. If it can happen to her it can happen to anyone.
Family court judges abuse their power. They give men custody when they ask for it. Mothers are being diagnosed with cancer, having heart attacks, committing suicide and dying from broken hearts. Children are neglected, abused and dying. Family court judges need to be replaced by a jury.
This is a well-written account of yet another tragedy. However, I wish your headline read “assisted suicide.” It was important to Catherine to note that she was of sound mind when she made this decision. She had no good choices. Her cancer was terminal. Catherine was a hero to so many parents who have been unjustly blocked from parenting children despite being the primary caregiver without issue prior to a divorce filing. She, unlike many of us, scored small wins in family court that gave us hope. Catherine wanted her story to make an impact in death that she could no longer fight to achieve in life. She loved her daughters and did everything she could to protect them.
Suicide is suicide. IF Mother and Attorney Youssef Kassenoff HAD HAD, as beaucoup sperm sources almost always seem to have from hordes of their next - women ? PATRIARCHY.
IF Mother Youssef Kassenoff HAD HAD the full supports of her daughters' sperm source, no courts and all relevant communities IN this of her terminal cancer, IT IS NOT KNOWN THAT ... ... there 'ld 've BEEN A N Y suicde at all.
I am saddened by what these judges allow to go on from human trafficking to robbery to malicious defamation etc in front of these children and still call them fit. They are obviously using them and hurting them for a free ride and to get attention and cause pain. Very sick and selfish . RIP beautiful
NY Judges that made Catherine Kassenoff Childless, Homeless
Judge Lewis Lubell ruled Allan should have sole custody of the kids and sole possession of the family home in Larchmont. He ordered Catherine evicted without notice. lLubell@nycourts.gov
Judge Nancy Quinn Koba, who, without hearing from Catherine or the children, signed orders to keep Catherine away from her children nkoba@nycourts.gov
Dr. Marc Abrams [above], custody evaluator #1. His recommendation: Because the mother “alienated” the children from their father, they should have no contact with their mother without a paid visitation supervisor listening to every word between mother and child. drabrams@drmarcabrams.com
Carol Most, attorney for the children, reportedly billed $270,000 to work for the “best interest of the children.” She recommended the court remove the mother from the children’s lives. gd@dimolaw.com; carolmost@cwmost.com;
NY State Bar Complaints Email for Westchester County
“After lengthy trials and reviewing all the facts, including some videos, none of the 4 judges who presided over the trials or the 2 court-appointed neutral forensic evaluators found him to have committed wrongdoing or abuse as to his children or the contended domestic violence, and instead awarded him sole legal and physical custody of their three children.”
This is FALSE, as Judge Capeci DID Rule against Allan Kassenoff and the GAL Carol Most who recommended that custody be given to the father, and all visits with Catherine be terminated permanently. In Judge Capeci scathing Order dated 11/14/22 she made findings that Carol Most committed gross unethical misconduct, so egregious that she shall not be entitled to her fees!!! Rulings like that do not come around often.
Judge Capeci:
As more fully set forth in that Decision
and Order, the Court removed the AFC, Ms. Most, for a host of reasons, taken in their
totality. One of the reasons noted was her violation of the witness-advocate rule (see
Rules of the Chief Judge 22 NYCRR $ 7.2|b]), whereby this Court found she improperly
acted as a witness against the mother in these proceedings, by arguing nonrecord facts
and hearsay to denigrate the mother to the Court (see Cervera v Bressler, 50 AD3d
837. 840-41 (2d Dept 2008)).
In addition, she also created an appearance of impropriety by hiring, as an
associate at her small four person firm, the Assistant District Attorney who had just
prosecuted the [dismissed and sealed] criminal case against the mother, who would
have necessarily had access to confidential information. She had never disclosed the
hiring of this former Assistant District Attorney to the Court, or to the mother, even
during the course of this hearing, where she was specifically questioned as to how
many associates were in her firm and when the last one was hired. She did not
implement any screening procedures in her office to prevent disclosure of any
confidential information regarding the mother from this associate.
As noted by the Court in prior decisions in this matter, the hostility the AFC had
towards the mother was plain, and she took frequent opportunities to denigrate the
mother to the Court with nonrecord facts and hearsay. Given her lengthy experience in
this area of law, it is all the more troubling that she allowed herself to be swayed in this
manner, and that she was unable to see the effect this hostility had on her
"Power reproduces itself by doing things the way they have always been done." (Kaiser and Cronsell, 2014)
It is also the 'imagination' of a twenty-year old, wanting to build something that is not real, but for one's own ego.
The silence of the family courts show presumption of power through an immature mind. Like the child who has not been well-mirrored by a mature adult, the ones with power create their interior world outside.
“Conceiving of imagination without sourcing its ecological origin contributes to and extends anthropocentrism consistent with minds unwilling to naturalize to their surroundings.”4 The Onkwehonwe, the unassimilated, traditional Haudenosaunee, Six Nations Confederacy Mohawk, consider that all things have spirit, that preservation of that territory “but also the numinous qualities” over millennia becomes Deep Memory that Onkwehonwe are required to study and respect. Myth is the form of the telling of this old-growth memory. (Ibid)
Man becomes the centre, losing the symmetry of the relationship: this is as if a twenty-year old leads. That Settlers have no myths about the land they conquered six hundred years ago is a signature of this immature memory and imagination.
"Power reproduces itself by doing things the way they have always been done." (Kaiser and Cronsell, 2014)
It is also the 'imagination' of a twenty-year old, wanting to build something that is not real, but for one's own ego.
The silence of the family courts show presumption of power through an immature mind. Like the child who has not been well-mirrored by a mature adult, the ones with power create their interior world outside.
“Conceiving of imagination without sourcing its ecological origin contributes to and extends anthropocentrism consistent with minds unwilling to naturalize to their surroundings.”4 The Onkwehonwe, the unassimilated, traditional Haudenosaunee, Six Nations Confederacy Mohawk, consider that all things have spirit, that preservation of that territory “but also the numinous qualities” over millennia becomes Deep Memory that Onkwehonwe are required to study and respect. Myth is the form of the telling of this old-growth memory. (Ibid)
Man becomes the centre, losing the symmetry of the relationship: this is as if a twenty-year old leads. That Settlers have no myths about the land they conquered six hundred years ago is a signature of this immature memory and imagination.
" This cannot be explained by the money hypothesis. The ONLY plausible explanation is that the driving factor for Catherine’s — and millions of other mothers around the world — is = = = the entrenched agenda to keep men entitled and empowered in the family, overseen and enforced by the OBN ( old boy network ). " = PATRIARCHY
USE J U R I E S to DECIDE the CUSTODY of CHILDREN inside MAWWIAGE DISSOLUTIONS.
As long as the jury departments aren't corrupt which from my experience they are.
Money us used to create social trend. When one man pays it changes the way everyone gets treated. The family law "professionals" develop their extortion techniques and reuse them over and over.
MORE Evidence of his financial misdeeds that made available money for the corruption exists in the concealment of funds in the entities B080480 Breathe for Change, Inc., originally registered with the WI DFI on 04/02/2015 as a non-stock corporation (41. Exhibit. WI DFI B080480, WI Corp. R. Search <wdfi.org>, enter B080480, select B080480 to view index of filings, Last Visited 04/28/2023.). B081907 became B091300 though the prior name of B4C, LLC not disclosed on the foreign entity registration, (42. Exhibit WI DFI B091300 WI Corp. R. Search. <wdfi.org>, enter B091300, select listing to view index of filings) (43. Exhibit WI DFI B081970 WI Corp. R. Search. <wdfi.org>, enter B081970, select listing to view index of filings); but the Delaware corporate registration, Certificate of Incorporation, K Schliener Incorporator, clearly states that Breathe for Change Inc., Delaware was formerly Wisconsin entity B4C, LLC., (44. Exhibit DE. S.O.S, Breathe for Change Certificate of Incorporation), B4C, LLC. B081970, is therefore the former name of Breathe for Change Inc. B091300, (45. Exhibit WI DFI B091300 Foreign Business Corporation Certificate of Authority Application). The registered founders are close friends of the father’s, one was purported to be romantically involved with the father. In May of 2017 Breathe for Change, Inc. filed a 2016’s 1952 checklist, as a charitable organization. Form 1952 shows a deposit purported to be a contribution of $151,430 dollars. (46. Exhibit WI DFI B080480, Breathe for Change Inc. 1952 checklist). Without a doubt some of that money was paid to the father as a paycheck, Cir. Ct. R. 192 at 48., contains those proof of employment.
The company WI DFI B091300 purports 1.2 million in assets, the amount of my missing half of the property likely being used to pay for the ongoing stalking and harassment with its terms:
"4.5 Adjustments for Certain Dividends and Distributions. In the event the Corporation at any time or from time to time shall make or issue1 or fix a record date for the determination of holders of Common Stock entitled to receive 1 a dividend or other distribution payable on the Common Stock in additional shares of Common Stock, then and in each such event the rate in effect immediately before such event at which shares of a series of Preferred Stock convert into shares of Common Stock shall be increased as of the time of such issuance or, in the event such a record date shall have been fixed, as of the close of business on such record date, by multiplying the number of shares of Common Stock into which one share of such series of Preferred Stock converts by a fraction: (1) the numerator of which shall be the total number of shares of Common Stock issued and outstanding immediately prior to the time of such issuance or the close of business on such record date plus the number of shares of Common Stock issuable in payment of such dividend or distribution, and (2) the denominator of which shall be the total number of shares of Common Stock issued and outstanding immediately prior to the time of such issuance or the close of business on such record date. Notwithstanding the foregoing (a) if such record date shall have been fixed and such dividend is not fully paid or if such distribution is not fully made on the date fixed therefor, the applicable conversion rate shall be recomputed accordingly as of the close of business on such record date and thereafter the applicable conversion rate shall be adjusted pursuant to this subsection as of the time of actual payment of such dividends or distributions; and (b) that no such adjustment shall be made if the holders of the. applicable series of Preferred Stock simultaneously receive a dividend or other distribution of shares of Common Stock in a number equal to the number of shares of Common Stock as they would have received if all outstanding shares of the applicable series of Preferred Stock had been converted into Common Stock on the date of such event."
Those court pocket incorporation terms say, 'you eventually get a cut from what you help to steal.' and the longer it takes the less you get.
-And nobody has said sorry. And I don't get to see my child or speak to my child. And they still have their ill-gotten gains. And I was a really good mom. And the medical records consulting company doesn't seem to let me have the right medicine to treat the illnesses they inflict, instead they manufacture records to support their crime like HIT men (Healthcare Information Technology men).
Ad there is no place to go for help because he bought the court.
Family court judges are killing mothers. Their inhumane treatment is a nightmare! Lives are forever changed. Family court judges prioritize male entitlement. Women and children mean nothing to these judges. Mothers are separated from their children, financially devastated, humiliated and treated like criminals. Family court judges consider children to be male property. The pain and suffering mothers and their children experience never ends. The chronic ongoing stress takes a toll. Women and children are condemned to a dangerous existence. Mothers are not criminals. Family court judges are criminals and need to be stripped of their power.
I believe the family court system needs to change. A jury needs to be put in its place to stop this terrible injustice that’s happening to mothers & their children.
Jury pools are selected by the government. The government is the source of the corruption. So, a jury will also be corrupt.
In 1977 my two sister & I put our perpetrator behind bars. We were blessed to have a group of people making the decision.
In 2018 the family courts gave full custody of our beloved granddaughter to her father & she has been alienated from her maternal family since.
Experiencing both courts I believe having twelve people making decisions much more fairer than only one!
I wish that were so, but they have so much control over everything.
End of story!
The system needs to be moved to a mediation system, funded by gov't.
THANK YOU for the work that you do Women’s Coalition. Reading her story MAKES ME SICK because it reads like a script and is all too common and is a crime against humanity. If it can happen to her it can happen to anyone.
Family court judges abuse their power. They give men custody when they ask for it. Mothers are being diagnosed with cancer, having heart attacks, committing suicide and dying from broken hearts. Children are neglected, abused and dying. Family court judges need to be replaced by a jury.
This is a well-written account of yet another tragedy. However, I wish your headline read “assisted suicide.” It was important to Catherine to note that she was of sound mind when she made this decision. She had no good choices. Her cancer was terminal. Catherine was a hero to so many parents who have been unjustly blocked from parenting children despite being the primary caregiver without issue prior to a divorce filing. She, unlike many of us, scored small wins in family court that gave us hope. Catherine wanted her story to make an impact in death that she could no longer fight to achieve in life. She loved her daughters and did everything she could to protect them.
Suicide is suicide. IF Mother and Attorney Youssef Kassenoff HAD HAD, as beaucoup sperm sources almost always seem to have from hordes of their next - women ? PATRIARCHY.
IF Mother Youssef Kassenoff HAD HAD the full supports of her daughters' sperm source, no courts and all relevant communities IN this of her terminal cancer, IT IS NOT KNOWN THAT ... ... there 'ld 've BEEN A N Y suicde at all.
The Judiciary is a satanic co-cult which membership requires the blood-torture and savage humiliation of Women.
https://msmagazine.com/2023/06/05/catherine-kassenoff-death-child-custody-divorce-court/?omhide=true&utm_medium=email&utm_source=everyaction&emci=4462da4d-5505-ee11-907c-00224832eb73&emdi=60fe69b8-7e05-ee11-907c-00224832eb73&ceid=444068
I am saddened by what these judges allow to go on from human trafficking to robbery to malicious defamation etc in front of these children and still call them fit. They are obviously using them and hurting them for a free ride and to get attention and cause pain. Very sick and selfish . RIP beautiful
https://www.facebook.com/catherine.y.kassenoff/posts/10210295435139796
Google Drive to Catherine Kassenoffs’ Court Documents
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ZitsXgychSTNxN4FXFjjoip93w4E6EaN?usp=drive_link
Coverage on Catherine Kassenoff and Allan Kassenoff
https://frankreport.com/2023/06/03/kassenoffs-law-firm-defends-announces-allan-took-leave-to-focus-on-family-fr-will-assist-in-showing-the-truth/
https://frankreport.com/2023/06/03/raw-emotion-and-rage-18-videos-of-allan-kassenoff-with-catherines-shocking-descriptions/#comment-227083
https://frankreport.com/2023/06/02/how-greenberg-traurig-lawyer-allan-kassenoff-used-family-court-to-end-catherine-kassenoffs-life-steal-3-children-and-who-conspired-with-him/
https://frankreport.com/2023/05/31/catherine-kassenoff-lost-her-kids-home-health-savings-and-life-through-crafty-husband-family-court-play/
https://frankreport.com/2023/05/28/is-she-dead-final-post-from-mother-who-lost-her-kids-through-family-court-to-wealthy-attorney-husband/
News
https://westchester.news12.com/westchester-family-court-activist-apparently-dies-by-assisted-suicide-during-battle-for-kids-cancer-diagnosis
Videos
https://www.tiktok.com/@therobbieharvey/video/7240063019391225131?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7232341215227561518
NY Judges that made Catherine Kassenoff Childless, Homeless
Judge Lewis Lubell ruled Allan should have sole custody of the kids and sole possession of the family home in Larchmont. He ordered Catherine evicted without notice. lLubell@nycourts.gov
Judge Nancy Quinn Koba, who, without hearing from Catherine or the children, signed orders to keep Catherine away from her children nkoba@nycourts.gov
Dr. Marc Abrams [above], custody evaluator #1. His recommendation: Because the mother “alienated” the children from their father, they should have no contact with their mother without a paid visitation supervisor listening to every word between mother and child. drabrams@drmarcabrams.com
Carol Most, attorney for the children, reportedly billed $270,000 to work for the “best interest of the children.” She recommended the court remove the mother from the children’s lives. gd@dimolaw.com; carolmost@cwmost.com;
NY State Bar Complaints Email for Westchester County
ad2-grv9@nycourts.gov
Allan Kassenoffs' Firm
achie@gtlaw.com,
aguirren@gtlaw.com,
Farah.Ahmed@gtlaw.com,
allemanr@gtlaw.com,
Elina.Alperovich@gtlaw.com,
anselld@gtlaw.com,
ballj@gtlaw.com,
Hal.Beerman@gtlaw.com,
Michael.Berlin@gtlaw.com,
Jonathan.Bing@gtlaw.com
Greenberg Traurig are liars:
“After lengthy trials and reviewing all the facts, including some videos, none of the 4 judges who presided over the trials or the 2 court-appointed neutral forensic evaluators found him to have committed wrongdoing or abuse as to his children or the contended domestic violence, and instead awarded him sole legal and physical custody of their three children.”
This is FALSE, as Judge Capeci DID Rule against Allan Kassenoff and the GAL Carol Most who recommended that custody be given to the father, and all visits with Catherine be terminated permanently. In Judge Capeci scathing Order dated 11/14/22 she made findings that Carol Most committed gross unethical misconduct, so egregious that she shall not be entitled to her fees!!! Rulings like that do not come around often.
Judge Capeci:
As more fully set forth in that Decision
and Order, the Court removed the AFC, Ms. Most, for a host of reasons, taken in their
totality. One of the reasons noted was her violation of the witness-advocate rule (see
Rules of the Chief Judge 22 NYCRR $ 7.2|b]), whereby this Court found she improperly
acted as a witness against the mother in these proceedings, by arguing nonrecord facts
and hearsay to denigrate the mother to the Court (see Cervera v Bressler, 50 AD3d
837. 840-41 (2d Dept 2008)).
In addition, she also created an appearance of impropriety by hiring, as an
associate at her small four person firm, the Assistant District Attorney who had just
prosecuted the [dismissed and sealed] criminal case against the mother, who would
have necessarily had access to confidential information. She had never disclosed the
hiring of this former Assistant District Attorney to the Court, or to the mother, even
during the course of this hearing, where she was specifically questioned as to how
many associates were in her firm and when the last one was hired. She did not
implement any screening procedures in her office to prevent disclosure of any
confidential information regarding the mother from this associate.
As noted by the Court in prior decisions in this matter, the hostility the AFC had
towards the mother was plain, and she took frequent opportunities to denigrate the
mother to the Court with nonrecord facts and hearsay. Given her lengthy experience in
this area of law, it is all the more troubling that she allowed herself to be swayed in this
manner, and that she was unable to see the effect this hostility had on her
representation of the children.
"Power reproduces itself by doing things the way they have always been done." (Kaiser and Cronsell, 2014)
It is also the 'imagination' of a twenty-year old, wanting to build something that is not real, but for one's own ego.
The silence of the family courts show presumption of power through an immature mind. Like the child who has not been well-mirrored by a mature adult, the ones with power create their interior world outside.
“Conceiving of imagination without sourcing its ecological origin contributes to and extends anthropocentrism consistent with minds unwilling to naturalize to their surroundings.”4 The Onkwehonwe, the unassimilated, traditional Haudenosaunee, Six Nations Confederacy Mohawk, consider that all things have spirit, that preservation of that territory “but also the numinous qualities” over millennia becomes Deep Memory that Onkwehonwe are required to study and respect. Myth is the form of the telling of this old-growth memory. (Ibid)
Man becomes the centre, losing the symmetry of the relationship: this is as if a twenty-year old leads. That Settlers have no myths about the land they conquered six hundred years ago is a signature of this immature memory and imagination.
"Power reproduces itself by doing things the way they have always been done." (Kaiser and Cronsell, 2014)
It is also the 'imagination' of a twenty-year old, wanting to build something that is not real, but for one's own ego.
The silence of the family courts show presumption of power through an immature mind. Like the child who has not been well-mirrored by a mature adult, the ones with power create their interior world outside.
“Conceiving of imagination without sourcing its ecological origin contributes to and extends anthropocentrism consistent with minds unwilling to naturalize to their surroundings.”4 The Onkwehonwe, the unassimilated, traditional Haudenosaunee, Six Nations Confederacy Mohawk, consider that all things have spirit, that preservation of that territory “but also the numinous qualities” over millennia becomes Deep Memory that Onkwehonwe are required to study and respect. Myth is the form of the telling of this old-growth memory. (Ibid)
Man becomes the centre, losing the symmetry of the relationship: this is as if a twenty-year old leads. That Settlers have no myths about the land they conquered six hundred years ago is a signature of this immature memory and imagination.